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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jun 30, 2010 3:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: In the Vault but not in circulation?

So many questions!

5/3/69 - The Lovelight Lemieux played was from the afternoon show in Rocklin. (And for 6/20/69, he picked a Lovelight's nice that he's a Pigpen fan, but it would be nice if he selected some other songs too!) As for the Winterland show, it's baffling that both our AUD and our SBD are the first set only....the second set with the Dark Star medley has never appeared, as far as I know, but I do hope it's in the Vault. (Although if the SBD sounds as bad as that first-set SBD, maybe that's why it never came out.)

'69 - No telling where deadbase got its songlist for 5/9/69 (or other dates, for that matter) - presumably from hazy audience recollections. It's reasonable they'd play New Potato though, as they played it again on 6/8/69.

As for the missing reels of late '69, I talked a bit about those (with a list) here:
Not sure if the second half of 10/26/69 is in the Vault - it would be nice to have the missing Smokestack Lightning from 12/21/69. But Lemieux has confirmed that the Dark Star>Stephen reel from 12/20/69 is missing from the Vault.

2/5/70 - Lemieux has said that the reel before the Eleven is missing. It's one of those ironies that both the AUD and the SBD are missing the middle of the show!

2/8/70 - Since Smokestack Lightning was released, I assume there's more of this show in the Vault (probably with a tapeflip in the Dark Star) - fortunately our AUD sounds pretty good.

6/5/70 - Interestingly, Lemieux hasn't played anything from the electric sets of 6/4 or 6/5. (Which probably doesn't mean anything, he's skipped many shows.) I would guess all those nasty cuts on the 6/5 SBD come from the original reels, but who knows, they could be from the tape copies.

6/12/70 - Lemieux did put the Other One on the Taper's Section, and mentioned that the show suffered from sound problems. But that was normal for a Dead show! I'd like to hear more....

1/21/71 - Lemieux played a few tracks; I wouldn't expect this show to be anything special (or even worthwhile) - but he also said the Vault has the Good Lovin' from 1/24/71 (that's cut on our copy), and said it is "unlistenable".

3/17/71 - Lemieux said there were bad tapecuts during Hard to Handle and the Other One....the worst spots, of course!

5/29/71 - Aside from the Other One, this show also has the longest-ever Hard to Handle, which has never been aired (aside from the awful AUD). And I also wonder if there's an SBD of the first set from 5/30, with its Good Lovin'.

March '72 - It would be nice to get the rest of 3/25 in SBD, our AUD has some bad gaps....sigh. 3/26 is indeed our #1 missing show of '72....Lemieux has at least put the Good Lovin's from 3/26 and 3/27 on the Taper's Section.

Nov '70 - I didn't know any little bits were missing from our Port Chester tapes, considering how many copies are here (some of them painstakingly compiled).
I believe our "11/23" show is now settled as coming from 11/16, taped by our usual Fillmore East secret-sbd crew.
The Good Lovin' fragment said to be from 11/16 is an AUD tape. I haven't seen it on the Archive.
11/11 and 11/20/70 are very similar shows, both having encore jams with Hot Tuna...I remember 11.20 having much better sound quality, though. As for ever hearing another SBD from Nov '70.....fat chance!

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Poster: Jim F Date: Jul 1, 2010 1:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: In the Vault but not in circulation?

Lol I didn't mean to make it out like I was asking those questions for you or anyone in particular to reply really, but thank you for taking the time to respond.

I've always enjoyed your various comprehensive breakdowns of various songs, eras, etc. and have found them to be a nice little resource. Only recently have I discovered that you compiled all that stuff on your blog, I spent a good amount of time reading a lot of it the other night. Great stuff, thanks for putting all that together.

And I feel foolish, I said that 5/9/69 would have been the final NPCaboose...I totally spaced on 6/8!

...agreed on the strangeness of the auds and sbds of 2/5/70 and 5/3/69 both missing the same things. I always found that terribly ironic. It would also be nice for more SBD of 2/8/70 to come out, but yeah, that aud is plenty good.

As for Port Chester-I dunno if anything is missing really(aside from 2 acoustic songs from 6/24), just that I tried putting together a little review of 6/24 and found myself frustrated and confused at trying to put it all in order as it was played for the purposes of linking people who aren't as obsessive as I to the shows here on the archive. When going through the Port Chester shows a month or two back for some reason I thought that there might have been some stuff missing from 11/7 I think it was? For the most part I think with all the various sources we have just about everything.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jul 1, 2010 12:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: In the Vault but not in circulation?

Oh yes, there is part of the acoustic set missing from 6/24... And the files here are rather scattered, not labeled well.
But considering shows from the previous year where whole Dark Stars are gone, a couple missing acoustic songs are nothing!

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 1, 2010 1:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: In the Vault but not in circulation?

I would love to ' clean ' up how that show is presented . Taking Bears' word , it was all one show beginning w/ CR&S . The way it is presented now reminds me of the old days of tapes all over the place , w/out a DeadBase .